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    Posted: 07/Jun/2007 at 9:51pm

Hi all,

My kids and I discovered this site last week while trying to learn more about homeschool kids participating in public school sports.

We emailed the local middle school coach and sports activities director and they said 'no way' as he attends a private homeschool here in town.  Today I emailed the director of the UIL and here is the response I received:

"Mr. And Mrs. R...
According to UIL rules, your son would not be allowed to participate at Bastrop Middle School. In order to represent Bastop MS in any extracurricular activity, he would have to be enrolled as a full time student at Bastrop MS.
Let me know if you have additional questions."

 

This seems different from the info posted on here regarding the new rules in Texas...my son will be crushed if he can't play football as he is too old for the community team (age 13). 

Can anyone offer insight or suggestions on how we can fight this? Are they right and we aren't reading the laws correctly?

Thanks for any help or suggestions!

T

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You are not reading the legislation wrong. Charter/Home/Private school students are allowed to participate. The UIL does not have the authority determine the eligibility of a charter/private/home school student. The school may not realize the laws have changed or the school is hoping you don’t know the law and will go away after the reply from the UIL.

 

Hard to believe this is still going on but every month I read about some parent that home schools in Texas getting dragged before a judge to explain the choices they have made for their children.

 

Your son can practice with the team until you can get this resolved. The football coach can get you the medical form for the physical. Most likely they have contracted with a local doctor so there should be no charge. You cannot be charged for anything unless the other students are being charged.

Nothing that comes out of the UIL is applicable to Home school students. The first part of the reply “According to UIL rules, your son would not be allowed to participate at Bastrop Middle School.” is a standard reply and “according to UIL rules” the statement is correct. But according to the law, UIL rules are no longer applicable to charter/private/home school students. The laws have changed and § 33.081 (b) clearly states that only students enrolled in the public school are subject to school district policy and University Interscholastic League rules regarding participation. UIL rules are no longer applicable to charter/private/home school students.

The second part of the reply, “In order to represent Bastop MS in any extracurricular activity, he would have to be enrolled as a full time student at Bastrop MS”. This is only accurate for students enrolled in Bastop MS. 

In the past, the public schools used UIL eligibility rules to keep charter/private/home school students out of extracurricular activities. The School district is attempting to apply school district policies and UIL eligibility rules on a home school student. School district policies and UIL eligibility rules are only relevant to students enrolled in the public school.

 

You will need to call the football coach and talk with him. Be very friendly, this is the guy your son will have to play for after this is resolved. Ask him if there is some other reason that your son cannot participate other then the UIL eligibility rule (there won’t be). Next, let him know you are relived to hear that because the laws changed a few years ago and you will email him the new laws and call him back.

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Can you tell what the new UIL law is and where I can read it?  My daughter would like to play on a public High School tennis team and I would like to be armed with the new rule that you have stated.

Thank you!

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The UIL(PS superintendents) creates rules not laws. Go to this link for more information:

http://forum.homeschool.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3933&a mp;PN=1&TPN=1
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I think you are misunderstanding the law as written. I have spoken to several
people at HSLDA and at SETHSA and all of the attorneys are in agreement
that the law DOES NOT say what you say it does.
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First off, I told you the HSLDA or other home school associations in Texas would not help you. And other public school superintendents are surely not going to help. You can ask for help and advice but it’s up to you to follow it or use it. Obviously you decided to do this your way but you make a statement like the one in the previous post you need to back it up. “I think you are misunderstanding the law as written. Exactly which law and what is the misunderstanding? “the law DOES NOT say what you say it does.” Not even sure what you mean but the laws I posted were cut and pasted from the code. You have such faith in these organizations why didn’t you just go to them in the first place? You should have questioned them just like you should have questioned the PS superintendent. I contacted a few home school associations and they were all in agreement as well. And by the end I found they were all wrong.

 

Secondly, my children participated and excelled in public school extracurricular activities including athletics (as did friends of mine). There was resistance from the superintendent and as a matter of fact, he told me I was misunderstanding the law although he could not tell me exactly which law I misunderstood or how the UIL could penalize the school.

 

And it’s just not athletics. Your children can participate in the other school sponsored activities and represent the public school. All-state choir, orchestra, band…. and if the school offers duel enrollment or college courses to the public school students your children can participate also.

 

My son earned an athletic scholarship to a very expensive private school that he could not have gotten into without being on the team nor could we have afforded to send him to this school without the scholarship. We had a lot of film from the public school with great competition that home school teams simply cannot provide and the public high school coach was instrumental in the process.

 

If you want your son to play on the football team you have to do this yourself. The homeschool associations are not going to do it for you and some other superintendent is not going to help you.

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